Re: the hyperactive thread and others.

I'm sorry. I feel like a jerk. I DO support. I pulled down my posts there and many others already because I realized I WAS presenting myself in the wrong way. I thought I had made it clear that I thought the festival was a good thing, obviously I am terrible at it. Some of it was just talk meant not to be directly related (Emergenza, the money stuff: which is a subject on my mind quite a bit as we are getting ready to record again and need a new PA, etc), some of it (like the selection process stuff) was just idle interest and speculation and not meant again as a judgement. And the things I did mention are NOT enough for me to change my opinion that it IS COOL.

I guess by mentioning even a few things in a less that positive light a shadow gets cast over everything. *sigh* message boards... in real life I am a reasoned, nice, optimistic guy. Online everything I touch turns to shit and I'm sick of it. The last thing I wanna do is stop myself from making friends, present myself in a misleading way, or ankle something I'm into. I don't speak for my band either.

I understand the angle magazine-wise, and while it's not my cup of tea, it IS valid business and audience wise and is positive locally. While trying to explain my tastes, I inadvertantly disparaged the magazine's and the readers, and I am again sorry. It was not my intention. Strong laguage can't be tempered by personality online.

Anyway, I'll shut up now. And I will attend the Festival as a fan, in fact I'm looking forward to it.

So, I'm going to stick to band stuff for a while. I'm pretty opininated, but am not really invested in being a loud-mouth jerk.

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Originally posted by Levi Eleven:
So, I'm going to stick to band stuff for a while. I'm pretty opininated, but am not really invested in being a loud-mouth jerk.

This is without a doubt, one of the worst things I've read. Fuck it man. There are few things as empowering than the anonimity afforded by the computer screen/keyboard. C'mon! Get back to stiring shit up with your words. Actions and personality are soooo 20th Century. Get with it!
Besides, no one really belives you are a real person anyway. I mean, Levi 11? Suurreee! Next thing you know you'll say that "Dandee" is a real name and a real person as well.

Ha ha ha! Dandee is a fictional person. I've seen him up close, and he's just burlap sacks filled with oatmeal, controlled by puppeteers through radio waves. It's all a conspiracy, man! Wake up!

I could get an anonymous account. It's not worth the trouble though, because I don't think anything I have to say is so important that it must get out at all costs. It seems like a lot of work to do something that isn't making my point or winning me friends.

I'm not worried about what I think, but more whether or not people get it. I pretty much think I'm right on every subject*, but with all the equivocating, inferring, implying, misunderstanding, framing and focusing, bullshit, etc. People only seem to read the bad parts of what I have to say, and then nitpick it apart. Which, honestly, is what I'm doing too. By talking about the entrance fee for Hyperactive, how cheap I am, and the fact that I don't know if fees represent the talent pool accurately**, I look like I'm taking some "anti-festival" stance, and that just isn't true***. It would be different if I thought it really was important, but... who cares? I do think Emergenza is a rip-off, but what do I gain by saying it? Nothing: it just pisses people off. I'm not afraid of that, maybe a bit bored of it, but it's got to have some reason. I don't want to be seen as one of those people who talks just to hear himself. That is only true when I am drunk.

Like any "creative" person, I'd really rather be known for my work (music, pictures writing) and not my opinions. My work is almost totally based on my aesthetics, and not on politics or feelings or any of that shit anyway. Since I am using my legal name, and representing my band, I have to be aware of how this might be obscuring my "message" (or more likely placing a message in my mouth where there is none). My main goal here of course is promotion of my band and networking. For example, I'd much rather be talking about our awesome show this coming Friday with The Bellmont, Supergiant, and Below the Sound. Fun has to take a second seat if I think it's harming other things I consider more fun, like the local scene****.

I just come to Rocksquawk to talk. I can "express myself" any number of other ways. I come here to shoot the shit. I underestimated the publicness of the forums though. I mean, Google indexes this shit. The last thing I want is someone typing my band's name into a search engine and getting some Jon Liber thread. The fact that everything is up in print for eternity kinda takes the fun out of just talking shit. Also, it's different crowd than when I started coming here. Someone coming into the middle is going to get the wrong idea about me and about Rocksquawk.

People take it all too hard (I've been guilty of it too). It seems like real discussion always becomes argument pretty fast. I don't have as hot a head as a lot of others do, but I push back when challenged, I do. Yeah, I got a little offended when hooks2u got on the Hyperactive thread, because it felt accusatory, felt like blaming bands for their problems, felt like a bit of a mock at how poor we are, felt outside of the band experience as I know it, felt beyond the point. Of course, it's likely that Hooks meant no more harm than any of us did in our statements. She had no way of knowing that that's a touchy issue for me (and others). It's hard to interpret shit from typing, especially when dealing with typists of widely varying skill or message board experience. So I tried to rephrase my position but I think came off defensive, put too much emphasis on one piece of my point. I think we are really all on the same side. It's frustrating: Trying to explain something here to a perfectly intellegent person is like trying walk against the wind. You push harder than you'd like to*****.

Anyway, I'm not leaving or anything, just stepping back for a bit. Making some room. If I think it's important I'll say my bit (if I can make my point consise). And I'm not afraid of my opinion. If anyone wants it, ask me directly. I meant the apology for all of it, and I'm not too big to admit I am wrong (or just not up to the task of explaining how I think I'm right).

Levi Eleven (I AM real)

* I'm not an authority, but I think I'm pretty reasoned. I'm more careful with decisions than with statements.
** I still think that's true. Nothing is perfect though, it doesn't make the positive aspects of the fest. less positive.
*** Pro-festival. Really.
**** Boring, yeah. Bummer. I've been here for a long time and it is less fun when people get hurt feelings, which seems to happen more and more.
***** I really doubt this is one of the worst things you've read. If that's the case, and it really is that important, then I think it makes my point of needing to back off. It's just a message board.

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Originally posted by Animal:
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Originally posted by Varelli:
so are these all new? wtf is going on

Yeah, I just erase the links. Pretty funny, though it might get old. I suppose I could block unregistered people or make it so I have to approve comments or something if it gets on my nerves.

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