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I think when this was done originally, it was meant as a compliment.

Jesus Creeping God, let it go. If I have a few minutes today, I'll find you some really offensive things on the Internet. I'll get back to you.

I'm not sure if you're aware of it, but somebody actually OWNS and PAYS for this site. They can do whatever they want. Right now it's the Alibi and for a couple of years before that, it was Dandee and myself.

Fuck if I'm going to defend an idea that was conceived in 45 seconds while we were feverishly trying to get this site together. We were more concerned about how to get bands to use it and how to partially repay ourselves by putting shows together and enlisting other musicians' help. Change it to whatever you want since I honestly can't believe that you care. God knows you're deeper, more sensitive and more evolved than we are. But what would be cool is if you could take some of that extra bandwidth that y'all apparently have in your lives and (at least while you're on this site) apply it towards the local music scene.

Just a thought. Bitch on.

--Jim, Loyal Member of the Downtown Band Club

Jim you rock!

Here's an idea for those of you offended by the cup size thing: start/join a band, get your own forum on rocksquawk, and become the moderator for that forum. Then you will simply be listed as the "moderator" with no cup size. Problem solved.

...or just ignore them (these complaining, overly sensitive women, that is). They will eventually go away. Jim and mc's points are the most valid, and should end this discussion. If you want to call this a "downtown boys club" or whatever---fine. What it isn't, is some Women's Studies, politically correct, male bashing/re-education board . Go somewhere else with your soapbox, your insecurities and your hell-bent attitute to make everything in this world equal. You silly bitches, it's just a local music internet chat board. For fuck's sake . If all your feminist espousing had half the validity that you assume it does, don't you think the world would be the way you want it by now? But it isn't, and history has proven that. The world is dominated by two completely different species---man and woman. There is a reason for that difference, and no amount of modern education or advanced civilazation will ever change the basic hunter/gatherer that is encoded in men. Nor will the primary genetic female function to nurture change. It's our fucking lot in life, it's our role. Biosocial Anthropology/Human Evolutionary Ecology have made great academic strides in the last 15 years, proving just that.
You should be thanking your lucky stars that you are female in this country, because "sisters", you would have NO platform for all this outdated bitching and postulating that you are trying to shove down these men's throat's here. Yeah, it's their world. They created it. If this subject of bra sizes is so damn important to you, get the hell off this forum and start your own butt-hurt (thanks gio )lefty wymmyn's music board . It's a free country.
And for the record, I am not a musician, but a fan of all kinds of music. I was raised in a big city where local music was practically a religion. I'm young, in graduate school for an Engineering degree (talk about an unenlightened man's world ), and am more than comfortable with my feminity and the roles this society places upon me. It's still damn better than ANYWHERE else in this world.
Now either deal with the realities of this little internet world, contribute with something possitive, in a MUSICAL way, or just get the fuck out of here. Thank you all for reading, and remember, most modern women are'nt as uptight over this as these women want to make it out to be. Now how about we all hit Downtown tomorrow night, and enjoy the hell out of what these "downtown boyzz clubers" have prepared for us-----an evening of fanastic, diverse ROCK!!! Because after all, it's all about the ROCK!!!
XOXOXOX,
Joan

Joan, I am so buying you a beer. Introduce y'self sometime.

Joan,

I think that was a very well thought out, intelligently presented argument. But all the smiley faces you use makes it look like it was written by a four year old.

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Originally posted by Lucas Spider:
Joan,

I think that was a very well thought out, intelligently presented argument. But all the smiley faces you use makes it look like it was written by a four year old.

Don't you mean a four year old GIRL, Lucas?!?!?! (hehe) I guess I just <3 emoticons! Must be a generational/gender thing, don't ya think? But thanks for the props guys. You know I love you all, and I'm not one to sit back and let something that bugs me just go by. Now will you all please excuse me, I have to make my b-friend something to eat, after I massage his back and wash his clothes

WOW... that was baddass Joan... baddass!

Come Out Friday to the Launchpad! and support feminism by seeing three bands with girls in them and one band formerly featuring two girls, all of whom could rock your ass!

Then go to the Atomic Cantina on Saturday, and see yet another band with a girl in it along with a couple of the above mentioned bands with girls and another band that i saw a girl in one time. I assume the other bands also at least like girls!

There is also a girl on this flier who I suspect has high self esteem!

This thread is fucking great. Right on, Joan!

Hi Jim.

I'll tell you what I do to support the local music scene.

1. I earn a good living so the old man can work part time and pursue his music full time.

2. Along the same lines, I pay the mortgage and the electric bills on the house so I can watch the bands come and go for practice, no less than three nights a week.

3.I carry a bass, I help with the amps, I take pictures and video, I've created and put up flyers, I can set up and tear down drums. And I haven't missed a gig in ten years.

4. I can carry a tune, I can fill in on keyboards and play basic guitar chords when he's writing.

5. I've cleaned up vomit, I've been a drug crisis/suicide prevention counselor, I've been the calming factor for countless hysterical girlfriends. And quite a few musician/drama queens as well. And I'm always, always the designated driver.

But of course, I contribute nothing. And I would have absolutely no idea what I've seen or what I've experienced. The sum total of my Karma is the size of my bra.

Joan - I massage his back and wash his clothes, too. Why? Because I love the man who never stops dreaming. I do believe that you ARE young and on fire with the many things you are learning in school. Engineering will be a challenge for you - that IS a male-dominated career choice and I hope over the next twenty years you will NOT encounter many of the things I've experienced. I hope the world gets better by degrees - and I still do believe things can get better.

I'll still be around.

Levi, your sense of humor is refreshing as always.

PS...Pardon me for asking, but what's MUSICAL about bra sizes?

F-A-C-E
E-G-B-D-F

Something wrong with the progression in that, we seem to be using A-B-C-DD.

How does it help the local music scene?

In what way does it help to create a positive environment where everyone is welcome to participate?

I don't get it.

There are very few women on here. Only 11 votes?? I wonder why that is.

Let's see . . . . .
assuming you are in the key of A,
A, B, C, DD would be a 1-2-3-4 progression sorta semi-chromatic don't you think? with an extra measure on the four - mostly a country or dare I say it . . . . an old David Gates of Bread kind of chord progression - and there ! ! ! ! Problem solved. you can use loaves of bread for your karma - start with a hot dog bun & graduate to a Loaf of Wonder Bread
I'm sure glad I stayed with it through all three (3) separate threads that I have found so far on this facinating topic . . . . Jim congratulations! I never knew music could be so much fun especially as I haven't actually read any posts so far about - you know - MUSIC

nomad

i vote for ramones, in descending order:

joey
dee dee
johnny
tommy
marky
ritchie

of course somebody will be pissed off dee dee isn't first. who gives a shit.

hell, somebody will be offended no matter what's used: monkeys, spaghetti o's...

i seem to recall way back in the day....that the lowest was "itty bitty tittie committie" and the highest was "over the shoulder boulder holder"

I would think the women would be appreciative for the change

Careful now....you don't want to get me into another typing fit.

It's just old and wrong. It needs to go.

It's wrong for the same reason that they'll never do jockstraps.

ps...."El Cid"....did you write that diarrhea song? I promise it's NOT a loaded question, though I might send you the jumbo pack of TP.

And I don't think I'd ever label you by your anatomy. The only ones I think of in THOSE terms are recently divorced guys.....they seem to have this malady of wearing their anatomy as a hood ornament for awhile when they've been wronged by a female....then it fits. But only for awhile.

For that matter, I've known some women I'd classify by those terms as well....though I'd add "wannabe". Maybe Obnoxious Person would be a better phrase....though not necessarily applied to you. I think you just have a sense of humor, and in this world that's a valuable asset.

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Originally posted by old lady:
Careful now....you don't want to get me into another typing fit.

It's just old and wrong. It needs to go.

It's wrong for the same reason that they'll never do jockstraps.

...Yeah, yeah, blah, blah. Have you figured out yet that nobody really cares? Except for that Joan chick, and it looks like she's not saddeling up for your trail ride. No. Instead you should just relax and check out my posting about the dream I had the other night. That shit was vivid!