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Originally posted by chknshtconformist:
Please! There's really no such thing as an "overlooked Pink Floyd album." In relative terms, compared to most bands. The only reason I can think of why someone would think MEDDLE was amazing but then shit on DARK SIDE and THE WALL is that they have a problem with outrageously successful and popular albums. Am I wrong?

I don't really care about how successful albums are...if they're good, I like 'em. I don't like Dark Side and The Wall because they are too melodramatic for me, and I can't stand the overused Pink Floyd synth sound. I like that Meddle has a lot of acoustic tracks to it, but I like the heavy side of it too, and I can even enjoy all 26 minutes (or however long it is) of Echoes. Overlooked by Pink Floyd fans? No, but ask your average Joe to name a Pink Floyd song, and he's going to say "Money" or "Another Brick In the Wall," not "One of These Days" (he'll probably think that's a Bee Gee's song or something). That's all I'm saying.

Meddle is definitely awesome. It's the last great Pink Floyd record--before they turned into Alan Parsons Project. Along the same lines, Live at Pompeii documents both Meddle-era Floyd (the live stuff) and behind-the-scenes of the making of Dark Side of the Moon (the studio stuff). It's kind of sad to see them deliberately becoming something lesser, but that actually enhances the film. Netflix has it.

Syd Barret - The madcap laughs

i love it

from wikipedia = "The album featured a rather unorthodox recording process, in which Syd would provide a backing track of his own singing accompanied by acoustic guitar, over which the session musicians would overdub the rest of the arrangement. Unfortunately, Syd's playing and singing were highly erratic and unpredictable--he skipped or added beats seemingly at random, or otherwise he would strum on a single note for a long time before unexpectedly reverting back to the main portion of the song. This was all much to the frustration of the session musicians; a close listen to several tracks [in particular "No Good Trying" and "Love You"] will reveal the backing band hovering uncertainly here, or being caught off-guard by a chord change there. (During an interview, Robert Wyatt recounted that musicians would ask "What key is that in, Syd?" and Barrett would reply "Yeah", or "That's funny") Syd would not allow the musicians to rehearse or re-record their overdubs, insisting that they sounded fine. After several months of intermittent recording, the album was finally deemed complete"

I was just going to say Madcap Laughs...hmm.

Also, this one.

Those session musicians on The Madcap Laughs were Soft Machine, basically. The crucial record from them is Third. Highly experimental prog with heavy jazz elements. Great distorted organ sound, but not for metalheads.

Captain Beyond was an American rock band formed in Los Angeles, California in 1972. Its members were singer Rod Evans, guitarist Larry "Rhino" Reinhardt, bassist Lee Dorman, and drummer Bobby Caldwell. Evans was the original lead singer for Deep Purple and probably best known for his vocals on their 1968 debut chart-breaker "Hush"; Rheinhardt and Dorman had played in Iron Butterfly. Caldwell had come to prominence playing with Johnny Winter. He was replaced by drummer Martin Rodriguez on the group's second album (Sufficiently Breathless, which also featured future Double Trouble keyboardist Reese Wynans), after which Evans left the band. Captain Beyond re-formed in 1976, with singer Willy Daffern, and Caldwell back on the drums.

Captain Beyond played hard rock influenced by progressive rock. Although the band achieved little commercial success, the group nevertheless earned a cult following. Reinhardt and Caldwell reformed Captain Beyond in 1998. Since then they have been performing at shows and have released a four track EP. There is of yet no information whether they are going to record a new album.

The band Clutch references Captain Beyond and its' self-titled album in the song Rising Son, on the Clutch album Slow Hole To China.

I saw Mates of State a few years ago at Launchpad. I had never heard of them but I liked them enough to get this record on 2XLP and it is amazing. I later googled and found out this ... "Mates of State discovered the perfect studio environment to capture their unique blend of vintage Yamaha organ, drums, off-kilter harmonies, and the unique dynaism that holds it all together. The album was recorded and mixed over three weeks at both Willie Nelson's Pedernales and Jim Eno's The Garage studios. Manning the knobs were Jim Eno (of Spoon) and John Croslin (who recorded Mates' My Solo Project and has worked with Spoon, Beulah, Guided by Voices, Waylon Jennings and countless others). Craig Montoro (new member of Volcano, I'm Still Exicited!!) also managed to drop by to lay some trumpet down just prior to his move to New York. All told, Jim and John managed to chronicle the most infectious and versatile Mates of State album yet, a record sure to delight old fans as well as bring many more to the fold. And for anyone who's wondering if Willie dropped by for a spell, he did. Whether he recorded with them or not is a story best left told for a later time."

I think Adore by the Pumpkins is a great album. Its my favorite pumpkins album as a whole. I
think most people got three songs in and realized it wasn't the pumpkins they wanted and threw it away.

Constructing Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction by the band Irene is a very good album and horrably overlooked.

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Originally posted by MLX John:


First Black Flag album I bought in 9th grade......

I got that one, too. sometimes you cant go wrong with a "best of".

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Originally posted by DaveFame:
Follow up to the S/T

Dave, I think we have the same record collection.
Budgie is the best. They were my desert driving soundtrack for the last foxx tour.

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Originally posted by XrecaR:
I picked Flower of Disease, but pretty much any and all Goatsnake is criminally overlooked. You just can't get much heavier using a clean, melodic vocal style.



I dig many of the members' (Pete Stahl, Greg Anderson, Scott Reeder, Guy Pinhas, G. Stuart Dahlquist, Greg Rogers, a few more) other projects, but this band is the best thing ANY of 'em were involved with , IMHO...

Dude that is a REALLY good call! I love that album. But since you brought it up I'd have to say Pete Stahl's best showing was in Scream. Especially this album, which is THE most underrated punk album.

Right up there with the never released album by La's the Screamers.

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Originally posted by sssk:
I was just going to say Madcap Laughs...hmm.

Also, this one.

Sparks are an amazing band. One of my favs! Although I'd say that Indiscreet is better than kimono my house. Did you hear they're performing all of their albums in London in the next few months. 1 album a night until they've covered every album. I'd die to see those first 4 shows.

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Originally posted by Jerry Cornelius:
Those session musicians on The Madcap Laughs were Soft Machine, basically. The crucial record from them is Third. Highly experimental prog with heavy jazz elements. Great distorted organ sound, but not for metalheads.

Soft machine is alright! But Daevid allen wrote the first glam rock record and it's damn amazing. Bananamoon! Hard to find but worth tracking down. I'd through it on the "underrated/overlooked" list for sure.

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Originally posted by WebMonkey:
I saw Mates of State a few years ago at Launchpad. I had never heard of them but I liked them enough to get this record on 2XLP and it is amazing. I later googled and found out this ... "Mates of State discovered the perfect studio environment to capture their unique blend of vintage Yamaha organ, drums, off-kilter harmonies, and the unique dynaism that holds it all together. The album was recorded and mixed over three weeks at both Willie Nelson's Pedernales and Jim Eno's The Garage studios. Manning the knobs were Jim Eno (of Spoon) and John Croslin (who recorded Mates' My Solo Project and has worked with Spoon, Beulah, Guided by Voices, Waylon Jennings and countless others). Craig Montoro (new member of Volcano, I'm Still Exicited!!) also managed to drop by to lay some trumpet down just prior to his move to New York. All told, Jim and John managed to chronicle the most infectious and versatile Mates of State album yet, a record sure to delight old fans as well as bring many more to the fold. And for anyone who's wondering if Willie dropped by for a spell, he did. Whether he recorded with them or not is a story best left told for a later time."

I always wanted to punch Mates of state. Their puppy dog love was infuriating and somehow they translated it into music. I would throw them in the "Band I'd most like to see bad things happen to " category. They're just...too..happy. It's unnatural.

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I always wanted to punch Mates of state. Their puppy dog love was infuriating and somehow they translated it into music. I would throw them in the "Band I'd most like to see bad things happen to " category. They're just...too..happy. It's unnatural.

hehe thats funny

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Originally posted by Zac: I always wanted to punch Mates of state. Their puppy dog love was infuriating and somehow they translated it into music. I would throw them in the "Band I'd most like to see bad things happen to " category. They're just...too..happy. It's unnatural.

I do not care for them. I tried a couple times based on recommendations, but no. I haven't heard that album mentioned above, but everything I have heard sounds like Rainer Maria and I also dislike them. I thought they were the same band for a while. Not quite as fast, a bit more indie/less emo, but really, the singers sound so similar, down to the guy/girl trade offs and singing on top of each other but slightly different words or meter, simplistic into swelling hearfelt...nope.

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Originally posted by Baron Von Whiskerton III:

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Originally posted by Zac: I always wanted to punch Mates of state. Their puppy dog love was infuriating and somehow they translated it into music. I would throw them in the "Band I'd most like to see bad things happen to " category. They're just...too..happy. It's unnatural.

I do not care for them. I tried a couple times based on recommendations, but no. I haven't heard that album mentioned above, but everything I have heard sounds like Rainer Maria and I also dislike them. I thought they were the same band for a while. Not quite as fast, a bit more indie/less emo, but really, the singers sound so similar, down to the guy/girl trade offs and singing on top of each other but slightly different words or meter, simplistic into swelling hearfelt...nope.

Crap. None of you are gonna like my band now. We're down to two people, a guy and a girl, keyboard and drums...uh oh. Actually though, I don't think we sound like them b/c we don't do the vocal thing they do, which I also find annoying, which is: they seem like they're always almost screaming. And when they're screaming over each other at the same time, yeah, that's annoying. I like 'em ok besides that, but now we will make a conscious effort not to sound like them.

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Originally posted by mc: Crap. None of you are gonna like my band now. We're down to two people, a guy and a girl, keyboard and drums...uh oh. Actually though, I don't think we sound like them b/c we don't do the vocal thing they do, which I also find annoying, which is: they seem like they're always almost screaming. And when they're screaming over each other at the same time, yeah, that's annoying. I like 'em ok besides that, but now we will make a conscious effort not to sound like them.

That's it exactly: not really but kinda screaming. It's this overwrought wail-ish thing, where the voices compete more than compliment and it's recorded hot so that the competition during the swelling parts gets this waver that feels almost the same as if it's going to- should- distort but doesn't give me the satisfaction. I generally like two-pieces-especially key/drums because it can be full without being noisy, like guy w/girl vocals and don't dislike the music itself for the most part but that vocal style thing, the same thing Rainer Maria does, that chases me off.

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Originally posted by mc:

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Originally posted by chknshtconformist:
Please! There's really no such thing as an "overlooked Pink Floyd album." In relative terms, compared to most bands. The only reason I can think of why someone would think MEDDLE was amazing but then shit on DARK SIDE and THE WALL is that they have a problem with outrageously successful and popular albums. Am I wrong?

I don't really care about how successful albums are...if they're good, I like 'em. I don't like Dark Side and The Wall because they are too melodramatic for me, and I can't stand the overused Pink Floyd synth sound. I like that Meddle has a lot of acoustic tracks to it, but I like the heavy side of it too, and I can even enjoy all 26 minutes (or however long it is) of Echoes. Overlooked by Pink Floyd fans? No, but ask your average Joe to name a Pink Floyd song, and he's going to say "Money" or "Another Brick In the Wall," not "One of These Days" (he'll probably think that's a Bee Gee's song or something). That's all I'm saying.

OK, if you put it in that context, I see your point. I used to like "Money" until I had to hear it a bazillion times while being forced to listen to classic rock radio at work. I don't need to hear it again for the rest of my life. Cool time signature though. I pretty much love all of Floyd up to THE WALL and even some stuff after that. LIVE AT POMPEII is great too. My absolute favorite is PIPER AT THE GATES OF DAWN, but that's like a completely seperate band in my view. Aside from "Octopus," I never cared much for THE MADCAP LAUGHS, but maybe I never gave it enough of a chance or heard it in the right state of mind (which for me can sometimes make a big difference).

The Soft Machine - I don't care much for the first two albums, but THIRD sounded very interesting. Unfortunately, I heard it like, once, before I pathetically had to sell it in order to pay rent. I'll have to get my hands on it again at some point.