Hey all you skeedaddy rockers and wannabe's we have a new project out at- http://cdbaby.com/cd/decades
and want ya'all to check it out. Just like the rest of you I have been burned by bars that don't pay, bass players that don't show and all that jazz. Fuck it, its about the music. We don't give a shit about money, just want to share the music. Give it a listen, if you like leave a review and help out some local NM musicians. ROCK ON!!!!! If you need FAT drumtracks for your projects or graphics for your CD covers contact me at- rpc2000@msn.com

I consider myself a maximum skeedaddy rocker.

I have never not showed up...I'll give it a listen though.
Wilbertjones

Didn't mean to offend the "reliable" bass players out there, just joshing a bit. There are multitudes of incredibly talented musicians in NM, too bad there is such poor support and crappy venues. Seems to be a lack of talented drummers and most don't know what a paradiddle is (i was in marching band once upon a time, haha). ROCK ON all you skeedaddy's!

right-left-right-right-left-left-right-left (repeat)

very good, how bout a triple paradiddle, hehe.

Just got notice that "Decades the Collective" CD will soon be on Apple I-tunes and Verizon Wireless. Digital distribution is a good way to expand your audience. Check it out and help some homegrown musicians! Peace.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/decades

http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=CDB1185820012

This forum is very enlightening and entertaining. Good crossbreed of radical real rockers, and just plain strangeness. Checking out the soundbites it seems to be primarily generation X which is cool. All you young un's keep on rocking!!!!!!! We all started somewhere and the primary music thing should be continuous improvement. Haven't got any reviews on the DECADES CD yet but a lot of hits on the site. Is this music too polished for the young set????????

Peace

What about swiss triplettes?

Swiss Triplet: lR L R, rL R L (basically a flam and a double stroke, alternating)

Wow i learned something new. Thought swiss triplets were these 3 drunk broads i met in Austria once, but thats a whole nuther story.

rock on!

Right Mike except that you don't alternate and you are missing one stroke.

(r)L R L R, (r)L R L R, (r)L R L R,

or

(l)R L R L, (l)R L R L, (l)R L R L,

Ok how about inverted flamadiddles?

Great thread on fundamentals! I've always said knowing fundamentals will take you to levels not attainable by any other means.

Is the inverted flamadiddle? small letter is flam-
lRLLRL rLRRLR

Sheen, we're actually both wrong. What you wrote looks more like pataflafla or single ratamacue, only the ratamacue begins with a double bounce(drag) on that hand. Pataflafla's have another flam(alternating) on the 4th 16th note. Swiss Triplet: (l)R R L (r)L L R
Drumtiger, straight flamadiddle: (l)R L R R (r)L R L L. Yours looks right with the inversion except for you put an extra stroke at the ends.

Freaking amazing considering i haven't used this stuff in over 20 yrs. Once upon a time i used to compete in snare drum competitions and was 1st seat snare drummer in USAF drum and bugle corps. Check out DAVE WECKL if you want to see my hero (besides NEAL PEART). Billy Cobham was also a monster drummer!

I like Weckl. But not as much as Mike Mangini(ex-Steve Vai)
Let's not forget:

Elvin Jones
Tony Williams
Art Blakey
Jack DeJohnette
Philly Joe
Joe Morello

DOH!

Should have looked it up. lol I think I have been doing them wrong for the past few years.

Tiger

inverted flamadiddle:

don't try this at home.

16th notes (l)RLLR (l)LRRL (l)RLLR (l)LRRL

repeat until head explodes

Mike is right you have an exra note on each one.

Ok lets do inverted flam taps for the right hand

16th notes (l)RL(r)LR (l)RL(r)LR (l)RL(r)LR (l)RL(r)LR What it looks like with out the flam notes RLLR RLLR RLLR RLLR

For the left hand

16th notes (r)LR(l)RL (r)LR(l)RL (r)LR(l)RL (r)LR(l)RL What it looks like with out the flam notes LRRL LRRL LRRL LRRL


I haven't done any of these rudiments in years. I doubt I could do the normal versions of the ones I just posted.

quote:

Originally posted by Simfonik Mike:
I like Weckl. But not as much as Mike Mangini(ex-Steve Vai)
Let's not forget:

Elvin Jones
Tony Williams
Art Blakey
Jack DeJohnette
Philly Joe
Joe Morello

What no Manu Katche? He is the sickest.

Screw Weckl.

Manu Katche IS sick. For fun, try doing rudiments with your feet. Double stroke roll becomes not as easy, to say the least. Lately I've started working with flams and five stroke rolls with my feet. Shit makes for some tight muscles the next day. On that note, any of you drummers know any better techniques to stretch the muscle on the outside of your shin, other than just pressing your foot towards your toes which are curled underneath?

While we're on it, Triple Ratamacue:
(ll)R(ll)R(ll)<RLR3>L* -alternate, repeat

*Note that the three alternating strokes(in either hand) should be played as a triplet(hence <RLR3> ). html does not good annotation code make.

You're right Weckl is an ass BUT at a drum clinic i saw him do perfect 32nd buzz rolls with one hand, had the whole audience in shock!

Cobham warmed up by holding a 50cent piece vertical on a wall with buzz rolls and also buzz rolls on a pillow, try that for fun.

Saw Buddy Rich with Doc Severson once, that was freakin' unbelievable!!!!

No matter how much i play i know there are unknown 10 yr olds out there who can blow me away, but i keep on truckin'

Check out "Chameleon" track on Decades the collective CD, improv recorded live, no overdubs.