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Hell no! You've done nothing but show us tons of Love. You guys kick ass.
and if an amp is going to be blown up, I can't think of a cooler person than Brian to do it. "Well, are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle dixie?" --Deputy Dawg |
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hey man, i hope we've never been assholes to you, you always do a good job for us, and we definitely appreciate it!
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Also if bands take too long to set up for whaterver reason that should cut into thier time if you have 45 min of actual play time you take too log to set up then your time to actually play just got reduced. I know this is already a given on most places but sure seems like some either dont know or dont care..IF you dont care than that ia a total disrespect to the other bands because you're cutting into thier time.
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Autobots, roll out.![]() ![]() |
Dude after being on tour for a long time and playing a few shows here again that was very noticable about bands here is the changeovers are slow. No one will cut their set because of it.
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Also I think the only time you have such a freedom to take your time is if your the headliner which might be a bad thing as peeps are starting to leave by this time and if theres only 2 bands on the roster.
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I think 45 minutes is too long for a set.
I like 30 minute sets. Short and sweet. Unless you kick ass. Those bands are few and far between. |
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That has happened to us before where we went over a little and our set was cut short..Either we were told to cut it short or we did it on our own as a curteousy to the other bands. I wonder though how was the change overs where you toured? I know you said it was slow here but how much slower? |
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Yeah I was just saying 45 as an average time but 30 min sets are good. but here I've never seen a band do a 30 min set unless they were new and only had a few songs or if they were opening up for a touring band. And If they got 30 min that was generous too. |
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We're playing Burt's this Friday. 30 minutes of loud, self indulgent silliness. |
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Autobots, roll out.![]() ![]() |
I noticed that bands that weren't touring were slower in general. When we were on the road the touring bands we played with were usually very fast. The locals at various places were usually slower. But I'd say the fastest changeovers were 3 min and the slowest were 7 or 8 on the road. I'd say the Albuquerque average is about 10. However there was a band that was with us for several dates from the OC and their drummer would break down his set on stage. The keyboardist would just vanish and someone else would take his stuff down.
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hey, we're playing that show too... and we play 35 minutes of loud, self indulgent silliness! |
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I am always practically running to get my drum set off the stage. As a band we've always gotten our stuff moved quick. In fact, I think sometimes dudes have thought Connie is rude because they wanna shoot the breeze/attempt to flirt with her but she's not really paying attention because she's too busy breaking down her gear (and she's not interested). I'll name names, since the band moved out of town...there was a band called Evading Alister (sp?). They had the 2nd slot out of 3 bands at Atomic a few years back and the singer had to talk to his girl for 15 minutes. Actually, they all did come to think of it. And, they played a lame Matchbox 20 type of crappy music and played for well over an hour. Connie finally said something to the dude, something like, "Do you want us to move your gear for you or what?" And he went, "Oh, yeah. Sorry." and then proceeded to break down very slowly. They sucked.
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you guys have never done any of the above things... what you guys DO though, (as you know) is play way too loud for that lil room. terry, i am looking the Bmont here too, though improvements were made the last time i saw both the tempo and bellmont. it is hard to explain to someone that can hardly hear themselves that they are poking holes in the ears of everyone in the room. the rule i explain to touring bands is simply this: "you have a twin? 2 and a half is too loud in here, use the legs and i will put you in the wedge" they usually don't listen and their sound suffers for it. those that do, i'd like to think benefit from it. the thing you need to keep in mind is that if you walk up the ramp into the live room, and it is so loud it hurts, people are going to turn around and walk out. since we do not have a cover, there is no inherent commitment to what bar you go to... if the sound sucks, you go to burt's. i am the only one that mics amps at Atomic, and i do it simply to try to keep the stage volume down. Lenny and Matt both hate that i do it, and i have to be really careful because the system is so small, but i want to do what will work best for the show. i will be recording more of the great touring acts coming through town, so talk to me if you have a show, and if i am working, we can make a lil record of the ROCK. . . ^ this will be the second show i record in the AC, next up is Jan 7th at the Pad. if you're feeble and you know it, vote mccain! (clap clap clap) |
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I know we're often way too loud.
Unfortunately, I cannot control that aspect of the band. I can turn down the bass, but that won't make the guitars go down and then I wouldn't be able to hear what I'm playing. Do you have a dB meter? It would be a good idea to match onstage volumes using one. |
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Totally agree with s'wait on the volume thing. The volume and dynamics of a band is something that should be part of rehearsal. Seriously. If you're playing out, it's probably more important than getting the lyrics right. Getting your volume under wraps and learning to "use" the soundman can not be overemphasized. Those buys are in there every night and know how to dial a band for the space much better than the band usually does. Use his/her knowlwedge to make the best of your show. I haven't actually played a show since I moved to Albuquerque, but an old band of mine used to put a lot of time into dialing in our dynamics for shows and would adapt to the venue or the soundman's wishes and it paid off. Good clubs wanted us back and we sounded great live. True, sometimes you need an amp at a certain level to get your sound, but if you put the time in you can figure out how to dial it right at a lower volume. Just something to think about...
And count me in for the setup/breakdown Olympics! Great idea for a "show" where no music is actually played, but where all the music dorks time each other on assembling and disassembling gear. Oh, and Terry... Might possibly finally make it out to meet you Friday night after our aborted gig in Cruces ... three years ago. ____ n8 |
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and I for one would like to thank you for that. I guess I fall into the "if you're too loud..." group, but I've had to leave clubs and miss bands that I really wanted to see (which is a luxery for me in the first place) because it was too loud. Another note: I hate seeing bands walk into the room to double check the soundman's work. It just reeks of Prick. Maybe it was because I hated it when someone did that to me. When they went back on stage, I totally jacked things up. I have to admit, I let my temper get the best of me. "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read" -- Zappa |
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You guys sounded great sat. night. Levels were good. but, my ears are kinda shot these days.... www.myspace.com/thisguymeansbusiness www.myspace.com/theunemploid "There's two kinds of people in this world: those who get stomped on and those who do the stomping." -Jesus H. Christ |
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I noticed a lot of people moving down to the ramp when Slough Feg played. Great tunes, but too loud for people whose hearing isn't yet damaged "enough." "Had I'd know it'd end this way, I wish, I wish, I wish I'd brought those chains." -- 5MS |
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there is such a thing as too loud??? who knew? |
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i can't believe i forgot about that show |
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